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I have to say I am quite surprised by the comments made by yourself, Pastor Murray Lincoln. For someone who is supposed to be God-like and to represent God, you are a hypocrite and very judgmental. You don't have the right to make such a judgment on this young man! Shame on you! Coming from a graduate from the University of Toronto and from someone who studied the history of Catholicism and Christianity, this case is by no means about taking a "shortcut". I have viewed the study group myself and found no evidence of academic misconduct as alleged by the university. Don't tell me you don't consult other ministers or pastors when you have problems or need answers. To get those answers and in CONSULTING OTHERS, wouldn't that be taking "shortcuts" under your explicit definition? I commend this young man for fighting back and not being bullied by the university. It takes tremendous courage to fight such an institution! If he was guilty by any means, why go through such adversity and even make it public? God knows his good intentions and you have no right to judge him! I pity those who will have to listen to your preconceived judgments! Shame on you!
Dear Anonymous…
Thanks “Anonymous” for your comments… you certainly have an opinion. I offer some the links below to help others get a balance to what is being discussed here.
Your mode to “attack” is interesting – if someone has an opinion… turn and attack them… cool. Not new – but ‘cool’. “Shame on me….”
I would ask you to re-read what I wrote – not what you thought I wrote…
As to whether I consult other ministers about a problem… Nope…can’t do that with details…it would be voted on by the public that I have to work with… kind of like a Doctor I guess. I do a lot of research about the problems that I face. Since University days my research has been constant. It never ends.
Have a great big wonderful day… and again – “Chris… I wish you the best… and I wish you hundreds of hours of study. Go for it bud!”
~ Pastor Murray Lincoln ~
http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/story.html?id=b9b89dad-417f-4aa8-9e4e-a74e3b59897b&k=69333
Quoting Kim Neale, a student union spokeswoman who is representing Avenir at a faculty hearing…
"The administration is saying, 'We're not going to tolerate this. We're going to make an example," she said. "That's what creates this culture of fear in students who now think, 'Can I not talk to someone after I finish an assignment? If I had an issue, is the only person I (can) talk to my professor'?"
Neale said Avenir, who couldn't be reached Thursday because he was studying for a mid-term, is under a lot of extra stress.
"He joined this group to prepare for his quizzes," she said. "His posts mainly said, 'Hey guys, let's get together for an exam study session. Not like, 'Hey guys, I did these questions and here are my answers.' "
She said some of the group's other members did cross a line -- by offering up answers -- in their posts, but Avenir was not one of those students.
http://www.canadianblogs.net/categories/ryerson/
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2008/03/06/facebook-study.html?ref=rss
Ryerson spokesman James Norrie declined to comment specifically on the case. But he said, speaking generally on academic policy, that the university has a responsibility to ensure students are doing their own work.
"We want them to achieve. But that also means that they sometimes have to do the hard work of learning and not take the easy way out," he said.
Norrie, also director of the Ted Rogers School of Information Technology Management at Ryerson, said the university must ensure any charge of academic misconduct is investigated, and academic integrity is protected.
"It is not fair to students to perpetuate the myth — and it is a myth — that they can do what they like online and that they're protected because that's only a forum for young people where they can do what they want to do, and that's really not accurate," he said. "It is our job to protect academic integrity from any threat. And if that threat comes from new online tools, we have a responsibility as academics to understand the risks, to assess those risks and threats, and to educate people about how to avoid misconduct."
I have to say I am quite surprised by the comments made by yourself, Pastor Murray Lincoln. For someone who is supposed to be God-like and to represent God, you are a hypocrite and very judgmental. You don't have the right to make such a judgment on this young man! Shame on you! Coming from a graduate from the University of Toronto and from someone who studied the history of Catholicism and Christianity, this case is by no means about taking a "shortcut". I have viewed the study group myself and found no evidence of academic misconduct as alleged by the university. Don't tell me you don't consult other ministers or pastors when you have problems or need answers. To get those answers and in CONSULTING OTHERS, wouldn't that be taking "shortcuts" under your explicit definition? I commend this young man for fighting back and not being bullied by the university. It takes tremendous courage to fight such an institution! If he was guilty by any means, why go through such adversity and even make it public? God knows his good intentions and you have no right to judge him! I pity those who will have to listen to your preconceived judgments! Shame on you!
Dear Anonymous…
Thanks “Anonymous” for your comments… you certainly have an opinion. I offer some the links below to help others get a balance to what is being discussed here.
Your mode to “attack” is interesting – if someone has an opinion… turn and attack them… cool. Not new – but ‘cool’. “Shame on me….”
I would ask you to re-read what I wrote – not what you thought I wrote…
As to whether I consult other ministers about a problem… Nope…can’t do that with details…it would be voted on by the public that I have to work with… kind of like a Doctor I guess. I do a lot of research about the problems that I face. Since University days my research has been constant. It never ends.
Have a great big wonderful day… and again – “Chris… I wish you the best… and I wish you hundreds of hours of study. Go for it bud!”
~ Pastor Murray Lincoln ~
http://www.canada.com/topics/technology/story.html?id=b9b89dad-417f-4aa8-9e4e-a74e3b59897b&k=69333
Quoting Kim Neale, a student union spokeswoman who is representing Avenir at a faculty hearing…
"The administration is saying, 'We're not going to tolerate this. We're going to make an example," she said. "That's what creates this culture of fear in students who now think, 'Can I not talk to someone after I finish an assignment? If I had an issue, is the only person I (can) talk to my professor'?"
Neale said Avenir, who couldn't be reached Thursday because he was studying for a mid-term, is under a lot of extra stress.
"He joined this group to prepare for his quizzes," she said. "His posts mainly said, 'Hey guys, let's get together for an exam study session. Not like, 'Hey guys, I did these questions and here are my answers.' "
She said some of the group's other members did cross a line -- by offering up answers -- in their posts, but Avenir was not one of those students.
http://www.canadianblogs.net/categories/ryerson/
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2008/03/06/facebook-study.html?ref=rss
Ryerson spokesman James Norrie declined to comment specifically on the case. But he said, speaking generally on academic policy, that the university has a responsibility to ensure students are doing their own work.
"We want them to achieve. But that also means that they sometimes have to do the hard work of learning and not take the easy way out," he said.
Norrie, also director of the Ted Rogers School of Information Technology Management at Ryerson, said the university must ensure any charge of academic misconduct is investigated, and academic integrity is protected.
"It is not fair to students to perpetuate the myth — and it is a myth — that they can do what they like online and that they're protected because that's only a forum for young people where they can do what they want to do, and that's really not accurate," he said. "It is our job to protect academic integrity from any threat. And if that threat comes from new online tools, we have a responsibility as academics to understand the risks, to assess those risks and threats, and to educate people about how to avoid misconduct."
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