Short Cuts to Success – Legal or Illegal?
The young man is only 18 years of age. And at this you age, in his first year at Ryerson University, he is in hot water. He may well be expelled over the interaction of studying together. He would have been okay if he had not asked someone else for help…and if his Prof had not caught wind of his study group on Facebook…
The March 6th 2008 article in the Toronto Star states…quote…
Study groups may be a virtual trademark of the Ivory Tower – but a virtual study group has been slammed as cheating by Ryerson University.
First-year student Chris Avenir is fighting charges of academic misconduct for helping run an online chemistry study group via Facebook last term, where 146 classmates swapped tips on homework questions that counted for 10 per cent of their mark.
The computer engineering student has been charged with one count of academic misconduct for helping run the group – called Dungeons/Mastering Chemistry Solutions after the popular Ryerson basement study room engineering students dub The Dungeon – and another 146 counts, one for each classmate who used the site.- end quote…
It seems innocent at the first reading of what the students did…but the Prof had given each student individual questions with instruction to work on these alone from what I can gather.
There was an attempt to do the short cut to success route. By sharing the problems with others with the intent to get some fast help for your homework was wrong. . So say the accusers.
The arguments that the students use in defence of what they did was – they didn’t understand and they sought help. It is just like any ‘study hall’ or ‘study group’ others use. They say that the University itself uses these kind of groups all the time…which makes even what the University does – illegal. Interesting.
The issues that Mr. Avenir faces with his Facebook group is one thing to consider. The other thing that is much bigger is the general idea that it is okay to use short cuts to get what you need – and especially when you do not have the time to get what you need done.
Short cuts to success are used by everyone – we all agree. And I am sure that all of us have used short cuts. The question that is faced by the Facebook folk supporters and the University administrator folk – is this form right or wrong. Mr. Avenir is facing 146 charges – one for each student in the Facebook group and he was its administrator.
A way back when…
When school didn’t have computers and the world was simpler, we had “Cole’s Notes” available as a short cut to knowing what is important in a book that you needed to read before the course was over. Someone had summarized the key elements in the very long and boring book in your course. The idea was that if you read it you would do better in your course.
“Cole’s Notes” were a short cut.
In University when we didn’t understand the ramblings of an absent minded professor in our classes, he or she would offer the “Lab” in Mathematics or Physics for example – and one of the Prof’s underlings would re-teach what the Prof had to say earlier – given ‘hints’ as to how to do it – or what the Prof had not said and also what might be on the exam questions.
The “Lab” was another short cut.
Each Sunday morning I preach a sermon that is a “short cut” for the congregation. The ones that actually read the Bible and know the story are stirred by what they hear. Others that do not read the Bible or know anything about it – are short cut people…what they hear in 30 minutes of my droning on behind the pulpit…is enough for them…
People tend to be too busy to do the normal, steady input into their lives. In the movie theatre they offer the “trailers” – short, exciting clips of movies to come…. “Trailers” are short cuts. But watching the “trailers” will never let you see the whole idea of the movie.
The Prof at Ryerson wanted her students to get the whole idea…think for themselves, so that she as their teacher could get to know if they really know what is going on with the concept that she taught. I can see her point clearly and I can see how the Facebook Group short changed each other.
Short changes do not work…
I just began a new book last week. It has 973 pages in it. It is a deeply moving book written by a good author that keeps you wondering what will happen on the next pages. It is hard to put down each time I read more.
If some one tried to give me the “Cole’s Notes” version of this book I would never have been enthused with what someone said about it. If they would have told me that it is filled with one man’s ideas and it will take you at least one to five minutes to read each page… requiring between 11 to 81 hours to read it… I would have quit or found a short cut. (It is a ‘savouring book’ and I will be more than 81 hours in the reading… and it feels good.)
My point…
Facebook by its definition is a short cut. It takes less time to type on it… it is a very fast way to do an old fashioned idea or “email”…no commitment to spelling or spell check… just a few good or funny words… that will do… don’t sign it … just hit send…
Email is a short and fast way to get a letter to someone… just type it… then hit send… no walk to the Post Office…no stamps… no one week’s wait to get the old letter to the recipient… no waiting to have them write back…
But then a letter was so much faster than travelling to someone’s place in another city – and talking with them. You just write it down, choose an envelope, insert, lick, stick and stamp it.. and put it in the post box…
Short cuts are used by all of us… a TV remote…a fast food restaurant…an electric light switch… on and on and on and…
The simple fact is that short cuts are not always good for us. They do not allow growth, conditioning, strengthening, or opening of our thought process and the opportunity of a future.
The worst kind of short cuts is the terrorist, taking his own life and the lives of others – for a quick entrance to Heaven…so he is told. We all know that is a lie. But why do we personally make choices to do the short cut thing – when we know that it is a lie also?
Thanks to Mr. Chris Avenir(and Ryerson University) I have had to rethink this one again.
But Chris…I need to share this one last thought with you… later on when I, as an employer, am looking for a good Engineering Graduate, I am going to be looking for a guy or gal that really knows their stuff. I will not be able to keep some one that has to keep getting their answers from Facebook… the building that they build, the Chemical Engineering that they will have to lead… cannot depend on short cuts. Sorry buddy… I will be asking for your class records and some recommends from a Prof or two…
Chris I wish you the best… and I wish you hundreds of hours of study. Go for it bud!
~ Pastor Murray Lincoln ~
Resources
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/309855
(Chris' Photo from The Star reference above...)
The March 6th 2008 article in the Toronto Star states…quote…
Study groups may be a virtual trademark of the Ivory Tower – but a virtual study group has been slammed as cheating by Ryerson University.
First-year student Chris Avenir is fighting charges of academic misconduct for helping run an online chemistry study group via Facebook last term, where 146 classmates swapped tips on homework questions that counted for 10 per cent of their mark.
The computer engineering student has been charged with one count of academic misconduct for helping run the group – called Dungeons/Mastering Chemistry Solutions after the popular Ryerson basement study room engineering students dub The Dungeon – and another 146 counts, one for each classmate who used the site.- end quote…
It seems innocent at the first reading of what the students did…but the Prof had given each student individual questions with instruction to work on these alone from what I can gather.
There was an attempt to do the short cut to success route. By sharing the problems with others with the intent to get some fast help for your homework was wrong. . So say the accusers.
The arguments that the students use in defence of what they did was – they didn’t understand and they sought help. It is just like any ‘study hall’ or ‘study group’ others use. They say that the University itself uses these kind of groups all the time…which makes even what the University does – illegal. Interesting.
The issues that Mr. Avenir faces with his Facebook group is one thing to consider. The other thing that is much bigger is the general idea that it is okay to use short cuts to get what you need – and especially when you do not have the time to get what you need done.
Short cuts to success are used by everyone – we all agree. And I am sure that all of us have used short cuts. The question that is faced by the Facebook folk supporters and the University administrator folk – is this form right or wrong. Mr. Avenir is facing 146 charges – one for each student in the Facebook group and he was its administrator.
A way back when…
When school didn’t have computers and the world was simpler, we had “Cole’s Notes” available as a short cut to knowing what is important in a book that you needed to read before the course was over. Someone had summarized the key elements in the very long and boring book in your course. The idea was that if you read it you would do better in your course.
“Cole’s Notes” were a short cut.
In University when we didn’t understand the ramblings of an absent minded professor in our classes, he or she would offer the “Lab” in Mathematics or Physics for example – and one of the Prof’s underlings would re-teach what the Prof had to say earlier – given ‘hints’ as to how to do it – or what the Prof had not said and also what might be on the exam questions.
The “Lab” was another short cut.
Each Sunday morning I preach a sermon that is a “short cut” for the congregation. The ones that actually read the Bible and know the story are stirred by what they hear. Others that do not read the Bible or know anything about it – are short cut people…what they hear in 30 minutes of my droning on behind the pulpit…is enough for them…
People tend to be too busy to do the normal, steady input into their lives. In the movie theatre they offer the “trailers” – short, exciting clips of movies to come…. “Trailers” are short cuts. But watching the “trailers” will never let you see the whole idea of the movie.
The Prof at Ryerson wanted her students to get the whole idea…think for themselves, so that she as their teacher could get to know if they really know what is going on with the concept that she taught. I can see her point clearly and I can see how the Facebook Group short changed each other.
Short changes do not work…
I just began a new book last week. It has 973 pages in it. It is a deeply moving book written by a good author that keeps you wondering what will happen on the next pages. It is hard to put down each time I read more.
If some one tried to give me the “Cole’s Notes” version of this book I would never have been enthused with what someone said about it. If they would have told me that it is filled with one man’s ideas and it will take you at least one to five minutes to read each page… requiring between 11 to 81 hours to read it… I would have quit or found a short cut. (It is a ‘savouring book’ and I will be more than 81 hours in the reading… and it feels good.)
My point…
Facebook by its definition is a short cut. It takes less time to type on it… it is a very fast way to do an old fashioned idea or “email”…no commitment to spelling or spell check… just a few good or funny words… that will do… don’t sign it … just hit send…
Email is a short and fast way to get a letter to someone… just type it… then hit send… no walk to the Post Office…no stamps… no one week’s wait to get the old letter to the recipient… no waiting to have them write back…
But then a letter was so much faster than travelling to someone’s place in another city – and talking with them. You just write it down, choose an envelope, insert, lick, stick and stamp it.. and put it in the post box…
Short cuts are used by all of us… a TV remote…a fast food restaurant…an electric light switch… on and on and on and…
The simple fact is that short cuts are not always good for us. They do not allow growth, conditioning, strengthening, or opening of our thought process and the opportunity of a future.
The worst kind of short cuts is the terrorist, taking his own life and the lives of others – for a quick entrance to Heaven…so he is told. We all know that is a lie. But why do we personally make choices to do the short cut thing – when we know that it is a lie also?
Thanks to Mr. Chris Avenir(and Ryerson University) I have had to rethink this one again.
But Chris…I need to share this one last thought with you… later on when I, as an employer, am looking for a good Engineering Graduate, I am going to be looking for a guy or gal that really knows their stuff. I will not be able to keep some one that has to keep getting their answers from Facebook… the building that they build, the Chemical Engineering that they will have to lead… cannot depend on short cuts. Sorry buddy… I will be asking for your class records and some recommends from a Prof or two…
Chris I wish you the best… and I wish you hundreds of hours of study. Go for it bud!
~ Pastor Murray Lincoln ~
Resources
http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/309855
(Chris' Photo from The Star reference above...)
3 Comments:
I have to say I am quite surprised by the comments made by yourself, Pastor Murray Lincoln. For someone who is supposed to be God-like and to represent God, you are a hypocrite and very judgemental. You don't have the right to make such a judgement on this young man! Shame on you! Coming from a graduate from the University of Toronto and from someone who studied the history of Catholicism and Christianity, this case is by no means about taking a "shorcut". I have viewed the study group myself and found no evidence of academic misconduct as alleged by the university. Don't tell me you don't consult other ministers or pastors when you have problems or need answers. To get those answers and in CONSULTING OTHERS, wouldn't that be taking "shortcuts" under your explicit definition? I commend this young man for fighting back and not being bullied by the university. It takes tremendous courage to fight such an institution! If he was guilty by any means, why go through such adversity and even make it public? God knows his good intentions and you have no right to judge him! I pity those who will have to listen to your preconceived judgements! Shame on you!
By Anonymous, at 12:06 PM
If people want privacy on their social networking sites, they should consider posting legal terms of service to that effect. See http://hack-igations.blogspot.com/2007/11/privacy-advocates-such-as-nyu-professor.html The idea is not legal advice for anyone, just something to think about. --Ben
By Benjamin Wright, at 11:35 AM
I found this to be both so to the point that it made me re-think the short cuts I use, and I also found it to be funny. So many times have we all thought, oh I'll just take this short cut and get it done faster, and then next time, I'll do it fully. How many next times have there been. Being out of university within the last 10 years I can say that I hated the TA classes, telling us their version of what the prof said. I found my fellow students hung on their every words,I on the other hand loved to read and research for hours in the library. To each their own, but a study group is a study group. Doctors use them all the time at Sick Kids hospital,as they learn, re-teach and come to terms with new ideas from doctors all over the country that have dealt with it before. Everyone has to learn from somewhere, and sometimes its not always clear what it is we are supposed to be learing. The fact that a message comes through the internet is neither a new concept or one that is seen as unheard of. But as like you pastor Linclon, I would prefer the person who really researched their skill, than someone who got the right answers from someone else without fully understanding how that right answer was come by. In the case of doctors, wouldn't you prefer that the doctor know why the aorta pumps the way it does, rather that just know it? Thanks for the insight into this short cut era!
By Anonymous, at 7:19 PM
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