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Wednesday, November 22, 2006

Overflow:Visible problems – Yikes

Hey – I admit that I am older! It is hard to admit it but “Tadda, old happened!” I am a little out of date at times.

(Up front… Fair warning this may well be a “geek post” dealing with computer stuff. )

I write some Web Pages in my spare time. It is kind of a hobby. When it is too cold in the garage to work or nothing else is happening I spend my evenings just picking away at a keyboard to create something new. Or in the case of last night, I needed to correct a very annoying problem with a Web Page that I had created. It took hours to sift through this one!

It is at this point that my “Tadda, old happened!” popped up. New stuff bugs me. New stuff sometimes does me in and isn’t any good for my thinking process. New stuff can mess me up.

Background…
The Web Pages that I have created looked great for a long time. Through the use of “old stuff” I use HTML Code to make the page do what I want it to do. Younger or newer guys to this business usually use an already made up program to create the Web Pages… like “Microsoft Front Page” or a fancy one like “Dreamweaver”. I also use them to do a great deal of the work. But the “old stuff” is a great way to open the Web Page up and re-write/re-create from within. You can add all kinds of things this way by knowing the “old way” of doing things.

Away back in the dark ages of computers – about 10 years ago – we did almost everything by writing Web Pages in code that would then appear in fancy ways on the screen of someone’s computer.

The Problem I had…
About a week ago I did something stupid – I upgraded to a newer version of Internet Explorer version 7 – or IE 7 for short. Pretty cool with all its bells and whistles – the IE 7 is easy to use, fun to use and clean looking. It opens faster and does some new things that its older cousins couldn’t do. I have been sailing through this upgrade. Hey I am with it! I am cool taking this radical step as an older computer man.

Blah! The Web Page that I wrote looks like “dumb”. What in the world happened to it? When I checked it out more closely – not only my Web Pages looked different – but a lot of Web Pages look stupid. What kind of bug do I have here? What corrupted my files?

But one secret popped up… they still looked good in other Web Browsers like “Opera” and “Mozzilla Firefox”.

By trying something new – the IE 7 – by “getting with it old man…” I was now in a pickle. On this new IE 7 the stuff looked like YUK!

After about three hours last evening I discovered that there is a “overflow:visible” problem. By making the changes to my system and allowing this other program to dominate my browser – it looked like YUK!

The reality hit me… my old programming wasn’t going to cut it in the new world. Anyone looking into the Web Pages that I have made for them with the new IE 7 upgrade will see the same thing that I see – YUK!

It is the “man thing” that is eternal. I will conquer this one too! I will solve the problems. The funny part is that the fix requires an “old stuff” kind of guy to deal with it. You change the code inside to sort it out. I can do it.

So… some time in the next few nights when I have some time I will be working on the problem and sorting out the YUK.

My conclusion to this little lesson is that “Tadda, old happened!” is actually a good thing. All these years of looking closely inside made it possible to take the IE 7 and make it work for me.

~ Pastor Murray ~

PS - For the Geeks that read this…
overflow:visible” help is here…to understand at least…

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